As usual, the BEA is late with this and hides the actual data. If you just read the first paragraph of the press release, it says: "Real gross domestic product (GDP) increased at an annual rate of 1.4 percent in the fourth quarter of 2025 (October, November, and December)".
To get the actual number, go to Related Materials, Tables Only, Table 3, to see 31,490.1. Even so, this says "Seasonally adjusted". I would prefer my numbers un-seasonally adjusted, but there is no way to do so, so this is the best we can do.
The Debt to the Public as of 12/31/25 was $30.85 trillion, so the ratio is 98.0%.
As of 12/31/25, this ratio was 97.0% (28.8 / 29.7). So Debt to the Public increased by 2.05 trillion, while GDP increased by 1.8 trillion.
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So net interest on the national debt is currently $351B for the first 4 months of this fiscal year 2026 (Oct to Jan). The annual interest, if you multiply it by 3, is $1.053 trillion. That is 3.3% of GDP. The Federal Reserve rate is 3.5% to 3.75%. If we use the 3.5%, the interest as a percent of GDP is still less than this number.
By 2031, the interest percent of GDP will be larger than the rate- imagine 3.85% of GDP (if Debt to GDP is 110%). In today's numbers this would be $1.2 trillion annual interest.
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Here is an unrelated article about the growth of the national debt by 2036 to 120% of GDP
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And another unrelated article about UFOs and Extra-Terrestrials:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15576229/Trump-secret-government-files-aliens.html


