Friday, August 1, 2025

What date did Maryvonne Trogneux die?

Maryvonne Trogneux

There are 2 different answers and I don't know which one is correct.

1. Maryvonne, born January 17, 1937, died with her husband Paul Farcy of a car accident on February 24, 1960; [Source: http://pressibus.free.fr/gen/trogneux/brigitte2gb.pdf pg 12].

2.   For example, he [Xavier Poussard] claims that Brigitte Macron lied when she said she was 8 years old when her older sister Maryvonne died, because he chooses to believe that Maryvonne died in 1960, whereas she died on February 24, 1961, less than two months short of Brigitte’s eighth birthday. [Source: https://www.unz.com/article/brigittology-for-dummies/]

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Let's ask our AI buddy.

ChatGPT, what date did Maryvonne Trogneux die in a car accident with her husband Paul Farcy?
ChatGPT said:

Maryvonne Trogneux — the older sister of Brigitte (later Macron) — died in a car accident along with her husband Paul Farcy on February 24, 1960 techarp.com+2pressibus.free.fr+2scribd.com+2.

According to biographical research, Brigitte recalled this tragic event as occurring when she was eight years old, though in fact she was only six (born April 13, 1953) at the time scribd.com.

In summary:

  • Maryvonne Trogneux, married to Paul Farcy, died in a car accident on February 24, 1960.

You said:
ChatGPT is there any source for this information other than pressibus.free.fr?
ChatGPT said:

Yes — there are other, independent sources beyond pressibus.free.fr that reference Brigitte Macron’s sister Maryvonne Trogneux dying in a car accident with her husband:

  • Wikipedia’s French biography of Brigitte Macron notes that her older sister Maryvonne died in a car accident with her husband in 1961, when Maryvonne was 27 Geneanet+8Wikipedia+8pressibus.free.fr+8.

  • Media coverage (e.g. Hello! / HOLA! USA) likewise states that Maryvonne “died in a car accident in 1961 at just 27 years old” HOLA! USA.

  • Several publications refer to Brigitte as having lost Maryvonne in a 1961 accident when Maryvonne was 27 years old Mundo AmericaOBNews.

However, there’s a discrepancy: pressibus.free.fr claims the accident happened on February 24, 1960, when Maryvonne was aged 23 (born January 17, 1937 → death February 1960) Wikipedia+3pressibus.free.fr+3Mundo America+3.

In summary:

SourceYear of deathAge at death
pressibus.free.fr1960 (Feb 24)~23 years old
French Wikipedia & media outlets1961~27 years old

So: yes, there are multiple sources, but they conflict on the date (1960 vs 1961) and Maryvonne’s age. It's not clear which is accurate without access to official civil records.

You said:
Chatgpt, assume that pressibus.free.fr is an unreliable source. what are the dates of Maryvonne Trogneux's birth and death?
ChatGPT said:

Assuming pressibus.free.fr is unreliable, independent and more reliable sources (e.g. French Wikipedia, Snopes, media articles) consistently state that:

French Wikipedia itself does not list exact birth/death dates, but the age and year (1961, aged ~27) aligns (Brigitte was described as losing her sister in 1961 at age 27) hola.com. A genealogical source summarized in a Scribd‑hosted document also identifies her year of birth as 1934 and death in 1961 in the crash scribd.com.

📌 Summary:

AttributeDetails
Birth year~ 1934
Death year1961, in a car accident
Age at death~27 years old

Unfortunately, no publicly available records currently provide the exact day and month for her birth or death. These are the most consistently reported facts from credible sources.

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Update: another source says she was born in 1938 and was 23 when she died.

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