Public Debt | Public Debt | Change in | Change in | % Change | ||
GDP | Beg of Year | End of Year | Debt | Real GDP | Real GDP | |
2000 | 10,252 | 3687 | 3434 | -253 | ||
2001 | 10,582 | 3434 | 3443 | 9 | 320 | 3.13% |
2002 | 10,936 | 3443 | 3710 | 267 | 88 | 0.83% |
2003 | 11,458 | 3710 | 4176 | 466 | 56 | 0.51% |
2004 | 12,214 | 4176 | 4572 | 396 | 359 | 3.14% |
2005 | 13,037 | 4572 | 4872 | 300 | 523 | 4.28% |
2006 | 13,815 | 4872 | 5054 | 182 | 596 | 4.57% |
2007 | 14,452 | 5054 | 5334 | 280 | 357 | 2.59% |
2008 | 14,713 | 5334 | 6836 | 1502 | -1,241 | -8.59% |
2009 | 14,449 | 6836 | 8294 | 1458 | -1,722 | -11.70% |
2010 | 14,992 | 8294 | 9656 | 1362 | -819 | -5.67% |
2011 | 15,543 | 9656 | 10876 | 1220 | -669 | -4.47% |
2012 | 16,197 | 10876 | 11922 | 1046 | -392 | -2.52% |
2013 | 16,785 | 11922 | 12643 | 721 | -133 | -0.82% |
2014 | 17,522 | 12643 | 13090 | 447 | 290 | 1.73% |
2015 | 18,219 | 13090 | 13929 | 839 | -141 | -0.81% |
2016 | 18,707 | 13929 | 14374 | 445 | 43 | 0.24% |
2017 | 19,485 | 14374 | 14832 | 458 | 320 | 1.71% |
2018 | 20,494 | 14832 | 16101 | 1269 | -260 | -1.34% |
2019 | 21252 | 16101 | 16621 | 520 | 238 | 1.16% |
2020 | 22120 | 16621 | 17576 | 955 | -87 | -0.41% |
2021 | 22939 | 17576 | 18589 | 1013 | -194 | -0.88% |
2022 | 23778 | 18589 | 19748 | 1159 | -320 | -1.40% |
2023 | 24672 | 19748 | 20910 | 1162 | -268 | -1.13% |
2024 | 25642 | 20910 | 22021 | 1111 | -141 | -0.57% |
2025 | 26656 | 22021 | 23253 | 1232 | -218 | -0.85% |
There are some flaws in the data here, with inaccurate numbers, but I am looking for the big picture. The last year that looks completely normal is 2007. Since then, the GDP has been juiced by the debt. Yes there are positives in 2014, 2016, 2017 and 2019. 2019 has some problems with the data so ignore it.
So lets call 2017 normal. The GDP in 2017 went up 778 billion and the debt only went up 458 billion, for a net increase of 320 billion of real GDP. Every year after that has debt going up more than the change in GDP.
Why does it matter? Well the theory is that you can grow the economy faster than the debt and decrease debt as a percent of GDP. But what if you can't and need the debt increase to grow at all? So if you can't borrow anymore the economy won't grow. It seems like we are already in that position. So what can we do? Just tread water. Keep borrowing until we can't borrow anymore. And lower the interest rate to make it manageable, like Japan.
The problem with this is the "dead wood" - zombie corporations, ineffective and bloated bureaucracies, etc - that will keep growing until they suck out the life of the system which will cause a collapse.
Update: I guess the big question is can we keep the status quo (of being stuck in a dead economy) going, or will it start collapsing faster and thus we need to borrow even more money. Will the next recession cause $2 trillion/year deficits? It could happen. So any more forecasts are pointless until the recovery from the next recession.
Update: I guess the big question is can we keep the status quo (of being stuck in a dead economy) going, or will it start collapsing faster and thus we need to borrow even more money. Will the next recession cause $2 trillion/year deficits? It could happen. So any more forecasts are pointless until the recovery from the next recession.
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