Thursday, May 23, 2019

Change in Real GDP

You have to subtract out any increase in the national debt from the GDP to get the real GDP.  It ends up like this:



Public Debt Public Debt Change in Change in % Change

GDP Beg of Year End of Year Debt Real GDP Real GDP
2000 10,252 3687 3434 -253

2001 10,582 3434 3443 9 320 3.13%
2002 10,936 3443 3710 267 88 0.83%
2003 11,458 3710 4176 466 56 0.51%
2004 12,214 4176 4572 396 359 3.14%
2005 13,037 4572 4872 300 523 4.28%
2006 13,815 4872 5054 182 596 4.57%
2007 14,452 5054 5334 280 357 2.59%
2008 14,713 5334 6836 1502 -1,241 -8.59%
2009 14,449 6836 8294 1458 -1,722 -11.70%
2010 14,992 8294 9656 1362 -819 -5.67%
2011 15,543 9656 10876 1220 -669 -4.47%
2012 16,197 10876 11922 1046 -392 -2.52%
2013 16,785 11922 12643 721 -133 -0.82%
2014 17,522 12643 13090 447 290 1.73%
2015 18,219 13090 13929 839 -141 -0.81%
2016 18,707 13929 14374 445 43 0.24%
2017 19,485 14374 14832 458 320 1.71%
2018 20,494 14832 16101 1269 -260 -1.34%
2019 21252 16101 16621 520 238 1.16%
2020 22120 16621 17576 955 -87 -0.41%
2021 22939 17576 18589 1013 -194 -0.88%
2022 23778 18589 19748 1159 -320 -1.40%
2023 24672 19748 20910 1162 -268 -1.13%
2024 25642 20910 22021 1111 -141 -0.57%
2025 26656 22021 23253 1232 -218 -0.85%
There are some flaws in the data here, with inaccurate numbers, but I am looking for the big picture.  The last year that looks completely normal is 2007.  Since then, the GDP has been juiced by the debt.  Yes there are positives in 2014, 2016, 2017 and 2019.  2019 has some problems with the data so ignore it.

So lets call 2017 normal.  The GDP in 2017 went up 778 billion and the debt only went up 458 billion, for a net increase of 320 billion of real GDP.  Every year after that has debt going up more than the change in GDP.

Why does it matter?  Well the theory is that you can grow the economy faster than the debt and decrease debt as a percent of GDP.  But what if you can't and need the debt increase to grow at all?  So if you can't borrow anymore the economy won't grow.  It seems like we are already in that position.  So what can we do?  Just tread water.  Keep borrowing until we can't borrow anymore.  And lower the interest rate to make it manageable, like Japan.

The problem with this is the "dead wood" - zombie corporations, ineffective and bloated bureaucracies, etc - that will keep growing until they suck out the life of the system which will cause a collapse.

Update:  I guess the big question is can we keep the status quo (of being stuck in a dead economy) going, or will it start collapsing faster and thus we need to borrow even more money.  Will the next recession cause $2 trillion/year deficits?  It could happen.  So any more forecasts are pointless until the recovery from the next recession.

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